The new TriDot app might feel like magic but behind it is the TriDot Innovation Team making it all happen. This week, Dr. B.J. Leeper and Coach Ken Presutti join the podcast to pull back the curtain on everything new and improved in the latest version of TriDot. Both athletes and coaches, B.J. and Ken bring a unique perspective as they walk us through the updated app experience, what to look for before, during, and after each workout. They also decode the powerful (and sometimes mysterious) graphs, explaining what they actually mean and how you can use that data to train smarter. Already using TriDot? You’ll pick up practical tips and hidden features. Not using it yet? This episode might be the nudge you need to download the app and see what it can do for your training.
Episode 342
The New TriDot: App Take a Tour
Andrew Harley: Welcome to the TriDot Podcast. Today is a big show for the show. Really excited about this one, monumental day for TriDot. We have, out now, a brand-new version of the TriDot app. It is in the App Store on all the major places where you download your apps. I'm an Apple guy, so for me it's in the Apple Store. But we have, today, two guests who are here to just walk us through what does the new app look like? Why is it the way that it is? How does it operate? How can we get the most out of using this app? So this one should be a really good one for all of my listeners who use TriDot for their training and racing. Coach Ken and Coach BJ are with us today. They're both guys that have used TriDot as athletes and coaches themselves, but they also work very closely with the software team that designs TriDot. So, guys, welcome to the show. Can you just tell our audience very quickly, you've both been on before as coaches, coaching us in the sport, but what is your exact role with the TriDot Innovation Team? BJ?
B.J. Leeper: Yeah, so thanks for having us, Andrew. It's exciting to talk about this new product. But I've been with TriDot, now, for about 5 years, working and operating as Director of Performance Science and Product Owner, working closely with our software development team and helping build out our products. So it's been a fun ride. Get to work with a lot of smart and amazing people.
Andrew Harley: Smart and amazing people like Ken. And Ken, you’ve come on the podcast as Coach Ken, talking about triathlon. Today, we're talking software. What do you do with the software team?
Ken Presutti: Awesome. Yeah, so I will take either smart or amazing. I don't know if I can claim both, for sure, so you can figure out which one it is. I'm a coach, and prior to coming to the team here, within TriDot, I was working with software teams at Big Bank, a couple of other startups in the past. And during that time, I'm working with those teams, coaching them to think about what their processes look like, what their technical practices look like, and how those evolve over time, how they keep up with changing trends in the marketplace. So I've coached technical teams, I've coached product teams, and then, of course, I've coached athletes. So coming to the TriDot team, in general, has really just been uniting all of those coaching passions for me, and that's really what I strive to do here with our team at TriDot.
Andrew Harley: Yep. Love it. Love to hear, and excited to hear from both of you guys on what the new app is like. I downloaded it yesterday and was poking around, and guys, it looks slick, and we'll get to that in a little bit. I'm Andrew the Average Triathlete, Voice of the People and Captain of the Middle of the Pack. As always, we're going to start off with our warm-up question, settle into our main set conversation, where the guys are going to show us the new TriDot app, and then we'll wind things down by asking these guys a question from our audience on the cool down. Lots of good stuff. Let's get to it.
Announcer: This is the TriDot Podcast, the triathlon show that brings you world class coaching with every conversation. Let's get started with today's warm-up.
Andrew Harley: Coach Ken, Coach BJ, for our warm-up question today, we're going to tap into some emotions. We're going to tap into some feelings. Specifically, I want to know, from all of your time racing as a multi-sport athlete, what was the occasion you were the most frustrated or angry during an event? It's not always sunshine and rainbows. Not every moment of a race goes the way we want it to. Ken, what is this answer for you?
Ken Presutti: The one that initially popped up--
Andrew Harley: Let's get mad!
Ken Presutti: Last year in Lake Placid, where I flatted probably 6 times and promptly came home and switched to tubeless. But the more I thought about it, the more I had to dig back a little bit deeper. So as frustrating as that was, when I first got into the sport, I think we're talking 2009, second race ever, I was, at that point, in better shape and was out on the course for an olympic, and I'm hammering it. I’m in the top 2 or 3 of the entire race, and it was a smaller local triathlon. And I'm out on the lead on the bike, and I'm like, okay, there's nobody around me, because I am killing it. And I kept going and going and going, and I realized, did I take a wrong turn? I'm not sure. Was the course marked? It can't be. I should keep going. And then, I knew there were 2 people ahead of me. All of a sudden, I see somebody coming back the other way, and right behind them is another person coming back the other way. And the top 3 of us all took the same wrong turn because the course was not properly marked. And there were -- they did have volunteers at nearly every single turn, except for the turn that they needed it at. And so it was super frustrating. Ended up being very far back in the pack, but still somehow managed a second place in my age group, because there were only three people in my age group.
Andrew Harley: That sounds very frustrating. And I'm sorry that happened to you, Coach Ken. I'm sorry that happened to you. BJ, what is this for you?
B.J. Leeper: Ironically enough, I think it was my foray into endurance sports that was the most frustrating. It was my very first marathon ever, and I did it with my wife. And ironically, because it's the event that probably pushed me into the sport of triathlon, because after it, I hated just running. And so somebody caught me on to the sport of triathlon. But trying to make a long story short, I came from a collegiate basketball background. So when my wife and I decided we were going to run a marathon -- she was a big runner, she talked me into it -- and I was like, oh, I'm a great athlete. How hard can running be? And so we trained minimally. At least I trained minimally for this event. And we did the whole taper thing leading up to it. It was the Twin Cities Marathon. This was the late 2000s, probably 2007. We get to the race, I'm feeling fresh as a daisy. We had planned to run together, because my wife is pretty fast, and we were going to try to hit our targets together, which was, at the time, I think an 8:30 pace for the marathon. We go out, I'm feeling so good at mile 3. I tell my wife, hey, I'm just going to go see how good I can do. And I go on to catch up with the 7:30 pace group. And I just go, just completely naive to the whole thing. And I just go, and I'm going to just crush this. And I get to mile 20, the proverbial mile 20, where the wheels come off, and I just instantly cramped all over the place. I was running a minute per mile pace faster than we had trained. It was a hot day. And I, literally, was relegated to walking because I was cramping up. And I was so mad because my mind told me I could do it, but my body was like, you have no business running this race this way.
Andrew Harley: The question we're all wondering is, did your wife catch you?
B.J. Leeper: She caught me, and I yelled at her because she was on the other side of the road, because there were thousands of people at this big race, and she thought I had finished and come back to run the rest of the race in with her. But as she got closer to me, she sees my face is white as a sheet, and I'm not in a good place. And she realizes, I'm going to have to -- so I completely sabotaged her race. I had to walk, leaning on her to walk in a straight line, because I was afraid the EMS team would pull me off course, because I didn't look fit to finish. And so I had to walk the rest, like the last 6 miles in with her. And we tried to muster up a run/walk/jog at the end, but it was brutal. And I was so mad and just really mad at myself for why did I think I could do that? And then after that, I swore I would never run anything again. And then a year later, somebody talked me into a triathlon. Then I've been hooked ever since.
Andrew Harley: So instead of just running, “I'm going to keep running, but now I'm going to run already tired,” is what you decided to do. Love that story, BJ.
B.J. Leeper: Well, I just figured out I could distract myself and mix it up a bit.
Andrew Harley: Thanks for sharing that one. This one, for me, I'll try to keep this short, but I did a local sprint triathlon in Denton, Texas called the Denton Waterworks Triathlon. The whole thing is based out of a water, little water theme park up there. And so you swim in their pool, and then it's a 200-yard swim, and then a 13 mile bike, 5k run, pretty short sprint triathlon. And I was doing this one, I think for the second time. We had a huge rainstorm come through Dallas/Fort Worth the night before, so the road conditions were pretty bad. There were sticks, debris everywhere on these little Texas country roads. And so people were flatting left and right. And just the long story short is I was really -- me and a buddy were talking a lot of smack to each other, trying to see who could beat the other. And so I'm going out hard, trying to beat this guy that I was training friends with. I get a flat. I fix the flat. I keep riding. I get a second flat. I'm ahead of my buddy. I know I'm ahead of my buddy. I didn't have enough materials to fix the second flat. So I'm just walking with my bike, and everybody in the race is going by me, kind of thing. And I'm just so mad, so frustrated. Thankfully, just a cyclist that was out for the day, riding, who wasn't in this race, came by me and had a flat repair kit, helped me get repaired, patched back up. That got me back to the race site. I'm literally running the run course by myself. Everybody else is done. I'm just out there by myself. And I had -- I burnt this 5k to the ground, because it was just a rage-induced 5k. My legs were fresh from just walking with my bike for so long before I was able to finally get it fixed up. But that was the most frustrated I've been on a race course, for sure. I lost to my friend who I was trying to beat, obviously. So that's my answer, here. We're going to throw this question out to our audience, like we always do. If you're watching us on Spotify or YouTube, just comment below, and let us know what was that one race, that one moment on a race day, that really got you, and you were extra frustrated, extra angry. Find us on social media, where we will post this question, as well. Can't wait to hear what your stories are for this one.
Announcer: Let's go.
Andrew Harley: On to our main set, where Coach Ken and Dr. BJ Leeper are going to walk us through the new TriDot app. Super pumped for this. I do want to say, if you usually listen to us, maybe in the car, or listen to us out on a run, or on your bike, or something, you can, and you'll still learn some stuff, and you'll still find this beneficial. This episode is going to be extra valuable if you watch it. So head on over to YouTube, head on over to Spotify, where we will post the video version of this episode, because Coach Ken is going to share his screen and show us around the new app. And Ken, before we do that, if you guys can just peel back the curtain a little bit. People use apps all the time that do different things, and it's always interesting to hear, who are the app developers? What is the software team like, to put this together? So just if you guys can just take a second and kind of brag on the team. Behind the scenes, when we fire up our TriDot app, what does the software team look like that is actually doing the work and making these apps for us?
Ken Presutti: Yeah, well, let me start on what I'll call more of the product side, who helps figure out what things look like, how they interact, and the entire team contributes to this, but really, I got to take a hat off to BJ, who we have on the call here, who acts as the product owner, who helps understand really what customers are looking for, what athletes are looking for in their training. As an athlete himself, he has good insight into that. And the majority of the team are also athletes, so they also help with that. But on that same product-thinking side of the house, we've got an incredible design team. We've got Jeremy and Joey, who are our UX gurus, and everything that you've seen, they've had the opportunity to go out to get athlete feedback, to listen to athletes, what athletes need, what athletes might need that they don't even know they need, and bake that into the app in a way that is intuitive, makes sense. You don't have to reach your thumb across the screen too far. Everything that you might want is within fingers-reach. And they really spend a lot of time doing that research and then talking to the actual guys who sit down and write the code and tweak the algorithms, before any of that rolls up, and gets their input, as well. Because those guys, again, the majority of them are all athletes. So I'll pause there, and let BJ give a little bit more insight to the actual technical team.
B.J. Leeper: Yeah, and it's interesting. Along those lines, I've always thought that our company has always been about the community and the people. And TriDot, as a brand, really started surrounding that, trying to solve problems for athletes and building community surrounding that. And it's funny, or ironic too, because several members of our software engineering team started with us as TriDot athletes. And we're drawn to our community at the races, and word of mouth travels, like, “Hey, we're looking for a software engineer.”
Andrew Harley: “Oh, you're a software developer? Let’s talk.”
B.J. Leeper: Exactly. Let's talk. And quality people attract quality people. And I think we've just grown over the years with our software development team, with like-minded individuals that are passionate about the product and just really good at what they do.
Andrew Harley: I absolutely love it. And it's really fun, throughout the week -- I'm obviously on the marketing team as the guy who does the podcast, and the guy who does a lot of our ad videos, and stuff like that. But it's fun, when we do get the chance to be on calls together, where the software team is there, and the marketing team is there, and the product team is there, and the customer support team is there. And just, so many athletes on team, so many people that came in as users before they were ever full-time staff. Really, really special place to work, that's for sure. And we always love hearing what you guys are doing behind the scenes on the app. A question I have, that maybe our longtime users, especially, will probably have -- I started using TriDot in 2018, I believe it was, and I've seen 3 or 4 iterations of the app, both desktop and mobile. I've always used TriDot on my desktop computer. I'm a video editor, I'm a video producer. I'm always on my huge Mac computer. So why would I pull it up on my phone when I have my huge Mac computer in front of me? So I've always pulled up my work out there, looked at it, and then gone. So I'm used to the desktop version. And I didn't realize, for a long time, how large of a percentage of our users are actually most often on mobile instead of their desktop. And the mobile experience, for a long time, has been very different from the desktop experience, to the point that I barely even knew how to use it, because I was always on desktop using it. And now, it's gotten a total facelift. So can you just tell our long-time athletes, who have seen it evolve over time, what is new about this newest mobile version? What makes it special, and why did the team decide to do such a big redesign?
Ken Presutti: That's a great question. And I will say, probably a lot of people might not necessarily realize this, but our previous mobile app was really an adapted version of the desktop app. So the desktop app was built in a way that would move over to mobile, but it was still optimized for desktop. And I think we've done, our developers did a really good job of taking that desktop version and optimizing it for mobile. But the new app is truly a mobile-native app. It was designed from start to finish to be able to take all of the advantages that come with mobile devices now. And the previous app really just wasn't there. And the way that people interact with mobile is different than they do on a desktop. So instead of trying to adapt the desktop experience to work for mobile, we created a ground-up mobile experience.
B.J. Leeper: Yeah. And to your point, Andrew, what you said earlier, the majority of our athletes, we've discovered, are on mobile, and we want that flexibility for them. And over the course of the last couple decades, our technology and all the effort that's been spent on developing that technology, that's always been the guide for athletes, and that technology has continued to drive our platform. But we really wanted to take a fresh look at, you know, the hero of our story is the athlete. So we really wanted to take a fresh look at how can we build this product in a way that makes it even easier for our athletes to leverage and to use that same great technology that is under the hood and is the backbone of the product. But just allowing, like Ken said, the new technology that we can leverage to allow for faster micro interactions of tapping, swiping, that modern app look and feel, and that's really the impetus for the new redesign.
Andrew Harley: Yeah, it looks so good, for the record. It looks so, so good. And I wouldn't just say that. What was funny to me, when I first downloaded it, I -- when I make videos for certain things, or sometimes I'm making videos that are there to help users learn how to do a certain thing on the app. So sometimes I have to punch in fake races, like if I'm doing a screen record, I'm trying to show how to add a race. And so I'd forgotten, at some point on my training plan, I added the Big Sur marathon to my RaceX, just to like, I'm sure, record myself doing it. I'm not running the Big Sur Marathon in 18 days, but when I downloaded the app, and I opened it yesterday to look at it for the first time, right there on my dashboard, I'm scrolling the dashboard. Oh, there's my SwimDot score. There's my BikeDot score. There's my RunDot score. Upcoming race in 18 days, the Big Sur marathon? What? So, yeah, it's getting me ready for a marathon, and I forgot that I did that. So I need to go undo that and then keep training. Anyway, Coach Ken, you're going to show us what this looks like by showing us your RunDot. So go ahead, brother. Pull it up and take us around.
Ken Presutti: All right, so what I'm sharing now is the very first screen you see when you log in as an athlete. Now, if you're a new athlete, you're going to go through a brief onboarding process, where it's going to ask you about your history in the sport. It's going to ask you what your goals are, what you're training for. So this is assuming we've already gone through all of that. And the very first thing that you're going to want to do, when you open the app, is likely get out and do your training for the day. So the very first thing you see, that first big block, is your workout card, and that tells you what you've got. So in this example, I have Cruise Intervals that are scheduled today, and based on my defaults, I'm set to run that at 7am. I will update that for the time that I actually do go out and run, because it's going to update my pacing targets and all of those things that the traditional app would do. You’re still going to get—
Andrew Harley: Do you just click on it, right there, and update it?
Ken Presutti: I'll walk you through all of that, so you can--
Andrew Harley: Okay. I'll get out of the way. I'll stay out of the way. Sorry, Ken, sorry.
Ken Presutti: No, absolutely. But that's probably going to be the first thing that I do, is I'm going to click on that block to actually see the workout. Now, if I have multiple workouts scheduled for the day, I'll have an indicator in the upper right-hand corner, here, and I'll show you what that looks like momentarily, indicating that I might have more than one workout. So maybe I swim and I bike on the same day, or maybe I have a brick workout scheduled. All of those, you'll be able to see. But if I just click on Cruise Intervals, it's going to take me to today's workout. I'll see what the overall profile looks like for the run. So I see I've got a warm-up, then I go into my interval sets, and then I've got a little bit of Zone 2 on the back. I've got my workout description here, that most of our users are going to be used to, with all of the warm-up drills that I could do. I say could do, I should say should do. All of the warm-up drills that I should be doing. Takes me through what my main set looks like, and then it tells me, on the back end of that, I've got the balance of time at Zone 2. If I want to make any adaptations to this based on the time or the location, I've got a settings wheel on the right-hand side. I can click that. I've got a few different workouts, here. One of the new features in the current app is ‘Record in TriDot’. So I could actually launch this and record it on my phone. If I'm a newer athlete and I don't have a watch, or I don't have a heart rate monitor, or any other traditional tracking devices, I can use my phone for all of that now.
Andrew Harley: And that's a huge deal. That's a huge -- I don't want you to glance over that in 2 seconds. That is a massive update to the app that's never been there before, right?
Ken Presutti: Absolutely. And if you're like, probably, most type-A personalities, you might feel you have some trust issues as it relates to using a phone versus using a Garmin watch to record your run. You're still able to do both. But what we have found, and what we've learned, is that the technology in our phones has so much greatly advanced beyond what was in wearable devices that it really makes a lot of sense to record here, now, too. So the altimeters, the accelerometers, the GPS that are in our phones actually captures more data than most watches do. So for me, my watch is still -- a little embarrassed to admit this -- but it's still an old school Garmin Fenix 5. And I think Garmin's up to a 8 or a 9 now. And so even though that was a top-of-the-line watch 5 years ago, or whatever it was, now the sensors are actually so much better on my phone, it makes more sense for me to record on the phone. We'll take a look exactly at what those look like a little bit further on, when you start to record those sessions. But a really great feature for, again, if you don't have a wearable device, or if you've got a really old one, and it might be time to upgrade, but you don't want to drop 800 bucks on a top-of-the-line device just yet. So just like to point that out. But as we go through here, you can mark these manually completed if, for some reason, you went out and you didn't have anything to record it with. Should you need to perform an assessment, or you're feeling really good and you feeling maybe it's an assessment day, you got an option to switch to an assessment. You can upload a data file if you did record somewhere else and you didn't have that device connected. But right here, ‘Adjust Workout’ is what we're talking about. And this is where I can adjust workout duration, I can adjust the time, I can adjust the location. So it's going to give me all that environmental norm factors that I would get for the location and the weather that I'm currently training in. There is also the option, which is new, adjusting the duration and adjusting the workout intensity. So if for some reason you feel like you're off today and you need to dial it back, you've got the option to do that. Now, what I say to my athletes that I actually coach is, hey, I'm your coach, right. I've got a good sense of everything you're doing. So for me, talk to me first before you start toggling things, and I'll help you decide what's appropriate and what we should maybe scale back. But if you're an athlete who doesn't have a coach, you've now got a little bit more flexibility in terms of being able to adjust your workouts. So I do point that out for our coached athletes. You've got a coach who's an expert. Use them before you play with these toggles. But if you're an uncoached athlete, this is a very good option if you do need to dial things back from time to time.
Andrew Harley: And super cool there, Ken. I, historically, any season where I've taken a couple months off training and come back to it, and I look at my workouts and I'm like, I can't do these workouts. Look at that intensity. Or if I'm feeling some nicks or niggles, and I know, okay, well, I want to stay active, but I don't want to push myself to the extent that TriDot has me pushing today. I just sub anything for a Zone 2 run or a Zone 2 ride. And that's the only adjustment I've been able to make. And so to know that I can tell TriDot, hey, for whatever reason I need to back off today, this week, it can intelligently back it down. That's super cool.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely. And our technology is so good, also, at recognizing a lot of that and making adaptations on its own. That's great. What it doesn't do yet, is it doesn't know exactly how your body feels. Until we get integration with Neuralink, we're probably not going to be there quite yet. And that's a joke. We're not working with Neuralink yet.
Andrew Harley: Tech bro jokes, right there.
Ken Presutti: Tech bro jokes. It's important to listen to your body too, right. And to be super aware with how you feel as an athlete. And always put that as a layer on top of what your workout plan or schedule says is really important. So you've got a few more options for telling the system how you actually feel now, which is great. So that's where you make your adjustments. You also toggle on whether you're going to be indoor or outdoor, if that has changed. And then also at the bottom of this, to bottom of the workout, I have my zone targets. So I can click to expand that, and I can still see exactly what zones and what target intensities TriDot is recommending for the actual workouts. Again, not new functionality per se, just in a little bit of a different spot, here.
Andrew Harley: And right now it's saying, it's telling you these zones are for 7am, and so since you're going to do this workout now after work and not before work, I'm guessing, you would update that in the settings, like you just showed us, and these zones will update based on the new conditions?
Ken Presutti: Absolutely.
Andrew Harley: 29 degrees this morning, Ken? 29 degrees where you are?
Ken Presutti: Pittsburgh, PA. And so for our international listeners, that's Fahrenheit, and that's cold. It's below freezing. The other thing that you will see here is I am not only am I a coach, I'm a coached athlete. So if I wanted to leave a message for my coach about this workout, I would just click here, ‘Need help? Message your coach,’ and I could leave my coach a brief message, “Feeling great. Going to hit my workout on the treadmill today!” Put a little exclamation mark there. And so now my coach is going to see, hey, I'm feeling great. I'm going to go out and do this. If my coach had messages specific to me, they would also show up in this spot here. So a lot of times with my athletes, I'll say, “Hey, I want you to really focus on being strong on the 3rd interval. So if it means you got to start the 1st interval a little bit slower, take it a little bit slower,” or, “Hey, don't forget to hydrate on this. It's going to be hot where you are.” So any coach messaging would be in here, as well, if you are a coached athlete.
Andrew Harley: Shout out to your coach, Richard Laidlow, who now thinks you're going to do your run on the treadmill today.
Ken Presutti: This is true. I'll have to make sure I message him afterwards. Good stuff. Okay, so that is the ‘Today’ view. It shows the workout today. It shows what you're doing, the paces you're running. You make your modifications to today's workout, if you need to, from this view. I'm going to click on the home screen to go back to that main view that we saw when we first logged in. I can do that either by clicking on the upper left-hand home icon here, or we've introduced a bottom navigation bar that takes you to the most commonly used features. The home button down there and always be taken right back to my home screen. A little fancy there, but again, anywhere you want to go, you should be able to navigate there easily and quickly with one click. The nav bar lets you do that. So below that workout card that I had for today, I also have a calendar, and I can very quickly slide to or click on tomorrow's workout to see what I might have lined up then. Or I could click on yesterday's workouts, I could see what I did or didn't do there. So you see here was an easy run that I missed. And as I mentioned earlier, if you have multiple workout cards, that is indicated by the top right of the workout screen, and you can just swipe to see there's also a strength workout I missed yesterday, and then I'm going to swipe, but you can see I did get my 30-30s. A little bit lower of a TrainX score, just going to say—
Andrew Harley: You weren't totally lazy yesterday. Not totally lazy, just a little.
Ken Presutti: Recovering from a little bit of a bug, so I will float that out there. But I can see that I did complete this. I can see the time that I completed it, the NTS that I earned from it. And then if I -- just like I clicked on today's workout to view everything that was lined up for today, on this completed workout, if I click on that, it's going to take me into that completed workout. You can see--
Andrew Harley: Oh that's work, right there. I recognize that. That’s Watopia.
Ken Presutti: --one out in Watopia, for sure.
Andrew Harley: That's the volcano in Watopia.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely is. You know the circuit well. I think I've seen you on that circuit before. I've got my high-level stats, but then if I scroll down, I can see my more detailed charts. I can expand those charts out and look at them separately. I can see all my little 30-30 intervals that I did there. I can scroll down, I can leave a message for my coach, and then I've got all of my stats. So the distance that I covered, the time, my average speed, my average power. I can click into the splits and see each individual split, how I performed on those. So again, very much mirroring the functionality that existed in the legacy app, but it's right here in the new app, so you still see all of those items. I can click onto my zone targets, again, if I just wanted to double check what those looked like. If I, for some reason, forgot.
Andrew Harley: And we see there, it shows the time, now, that you did your -- it said 11:58 is when you started that workout. And what the temp was.
Ken Presutti: Yeah, it was. It's adjusted, and so it's going to pull in the proper zones, absolutely. And then again--
Andrew Harley: Can you, Ken, can you do me a favor?
Ken Presutti: Yes, sir.
Andrew Harley: Can you leave a comment for your coach, Richard Laidlow, and say, “Rode around a volcano, it was really hot?”
Ken Presutti: I could, and I would do that right here, but I'm not actually going to do that, because I don't need him getting a ton of extra notes from me. All right, so back to the home screen. And again, I can swipe through those to see what I did. I'm going to go back, click on Wednesday to see today's workout. But let's continue working our way down this home screen, just so everybody can see everything that is up here. This next section is called the ‘Actions Ribbon’. So this will change based on actions that you might have. This is telling me that Peggy commented on a post that I put out. It's telling me that I've got activities that are waiting to upload. So if I took my phone with me to an area where I didn't have reception and I didn't have a GPS connection, it's going to save that file locally to the phone. So if you're not going to use it for some reason, again, you don't have that connection, and it'll wait till you're connected to upload. And then I can also add a race from here. And if there are other actions that you might need to take based on your context, it's going to remind you about those. If you have not added a device because you do have a Garmin that you use, or a Coros, or any other, FORM goggles, anything else you might have, it'll remind you here, hey, maybe think about adding a device. So this will very much change based on actions that you might need to take. Right below that, we've got our Dot scores, and you can click on those dot scores, you can see where you currently are. You can view your historical threshold history, so where was I last month versus this month. And you can also update your thresholds. If you maybe didn't do one of our performance assessments, but instead you went into a lab to get testing done, you could update that data here.
B.J. Leeper: One thing to note, as Ken's doing a great job walking through everything, on this homepage, the whole concept of why we wanted to make these enhancements and design this new app is to really allow the athlete to have everything that they would need at their fingertips. So that homepage dashboard is really a one-stop shop for everything the athlete might need to not only view and execute their workout, but also to look at the various insights that we know are really important, being Dot scores, TrainX scores, all those different things. So there's a lot to be said about packing all this into one page for, especially, the mobile user, but making it convenient so there's easy navigation, everything's at their fingertips, and hopefully, much easier to understand.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely. Thanks, BJ. And that’s--
Andrew Harley: And from this dashboard, everything's clickable like with my finger. That feels like it should would be intuitive, but if I click on any of this, it's going to take me deeper into the card for that feature.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely. And these are the other areas that you might want to keep track on during the week. Because if there's one thing I talk to my athletes about all of the time, it's feedback, getting feedback, understanding how you're doing, and then figuring out how you're going to adjust to still meet your goals of the week. So if I look at this, my TrainX score for the week is actually very low right now, because I've not necessarily been following my workouts well. I will be the first to admit that. Let's hope my coach is not listening to—
Andrew Harley: We're recording this on a Wednesday. You said you were coming off a bug, so it's, you got time to bring it back, Ken.
Ken Presutti: Thank you for the encouragement. But as you complete your workouts throughout the week, as you adhere to the goals of those workouts -- lost the screen there. Hang on just a second.
Andrew Harley: It's going to come back. It's going to rally. Like Ken's TrainX score, it’s going to rally.
Ken Presutti: Exactly. All right, here we go. So that will increase as I get my workouts completed during the week. I can see all of my upcoming races, so it's going to show me my closest race right here, Pittsburgh Half Marathon. If I go to view all, I'll see the other races that I have lined up for the season. I can add a race here, very easily, by just clicking through, and it's going to take me -- I actually do have a 5k coming up, and so I'll just show you what adding that looks like.
Andrew Harley: Let's do it. Let's put it on there.
Ken Presutti: So this is going to be, it's called the Draft Day 5k, shout out to Pittsburgh who is hosting the NFL draft this month, and that's going to be on April 25th. It’s in Pittsburgh.
Andrew Harley: Miami Dolphins are going to have a good draft. I can feel it in my bones.
Ken Presutti: We're pulling for you, man. We're pulling for you.
Andrew Harley: Down with the Kansas City Chiefs.
B.J. Leeper: Hey, we're getting a good pick this year.
Ken Presutti: This is going to be a low priority race for a couple of reasons. It's not going to be high priority, because I can't put in a high priority race that I would be tapering for right now, because this is in my block of racing that's leading into the Pittsburgh Marathon, which is actually the weekend right after this. And I'm running this one, as well, with my son. There's going to be a ton of people there. It's more just for fun. So I'm putting it in there just so it's tracking, and it will process, and it will pop up here on my upcoming races once it does.
Andrew Harley: And is this where we would click to see what our RaceX plan, pacing plan is for the race? And boom, it's already there while we've been talking.
Ken Presutti: It’s already there. And so yes, I could click in and be taken to RaceX where I could do all of my fun RaceX analytics and planning.
Andrew Harley: Which is a whole separate podcast episode that we should bring you back for.
Ken Presutti: Yeah, we would love that. Absolutely. Last few pieces here, already had mentioned the importance of feedback. So not just in terms of weekly TrainX, but how much time have I put in versus what I planned to put in. I've only put in 52 minutes at this point. I’m planned for 10 hours and 20 minutes this week. So as I continue to record those workouts, that's going to get updated the number of sessions, that one out 11, so far, that I'm being, that I'm completing my execution points. So how well am I executing against my planned workouts, and my stress, my training stress that's accumulating throughout the week. All of that is here on the homepage. So that's really the overview of the homepage, the landing page. We did click into the Today's view as well, so that you could see that, with my Cruise Intervals. One of the other things I'm going to mention, here, is that if you jump into the app, and I'm going to go back to yesterday, because I have three workouts scheduled for there, and I'm like, okay, what do I want to do today? Maybe for some reason I don't want to swipe through these cards. I can click on the little runner man, and it's going to show me all of the workouts that were scheduled for the day that I have selected on the calendar slider. So if I just want to jump straight to the Easy Run, I could jump, select there, and it's going to take me into that daily workout view for whatever workout that is. So again, maybe it's five in the morning, you're at the gym, you want to just very quickly see what your scheduled workouts are. You don't want to swipe through. You just click on your runner man, and it's going to show you everything that's scheduled for the selected day. I had another athlete ask me, say, “Hey, one of the things that I liked on the Legacy app was I had the view of what was scheduled for the entire week, and I could see that all the way coming down.” We didn't want to take that away, because we do know a lot of the athletes like that view. So from here on the homepage, if you just click the little calendar icon in the upper right-hand corner, it's going to show you your whole week. And then you can, just you could on the older app, you could drop and drag this Tuesday run, maybe I'm actually going to bring that down to Thursday.
Andrew Harley: Yes, thank you. Love that.
Ken Presutti: Cool. Thought you would like that one. So it'll make those adaptations for you very easy to change. And then if you want to see what the whole month looks like, you could click on that calendar icon in the upper right again, a second time, and it's going to show you what April looks like.
Andrew Harley: Yes, love that. Thank you.
Ken Presutti: And any one of these I could click on, and it's going to show me just a high level overview of what that workout might be. So, a good example, on Saturday the 18th, I see I've got a bike, I've got some family stuff going on. I click on that. Okay. It's my Threshold and Hold session. And let me see a little bit more about that. I can see exactly what it looks like. I can see what time it's scheduled for, all those other little details that I might need to know.
Andrew Harley: While we're here, Ken, on the monthly calendar, this is probably a good BJ question, just for our folks to hear. Because we talk about how dynamic TriDot is, how TriDot is always updating your training schedule based on life, how your previous sessions went, what races you have coming up. Ken just added a 5K to his, to his calendar, and so that in theory, it's a C-race in this case, but if that was an A-race, it could all of a sudden start changing some of this stuff. So I love the monthly view. I love -- I popped this open on desktop, historically, but now I can do it on the app, which is great. I like knowing, okay, yeah, this Friday is an interval run, but next Friday is an assessment. I like knowing what's coming 2 weeks out, 3 weeks out. But then I know it also is subject to change, because TriDot is changing things dynamically for me, based on how my training is going. So BJ, how -- so one, I wanted to express, I love this view. I use this view a lot just to kind of see what's coming. But then how -- I don't want to use the word reliable. How stable is this versus how subject to change is this, if I am looking 2 weeks out, 3 weeks out, 4 weeks out?
B.J. Leeper: Yeah, it's a good question, because the reality is our app is living and breathing with you. So based on what you do or don't do, or some of the additions you make, like you saw with Ken adding a race, our optimization engine is going to account for all of those things and adjust. And it adjusts every single week. There's regenerations that occur. There's so much going on under the hood that is counting for all these things. So really, it's one of those things, as you look ahead, it's a different paradigm than what people that are used to just template training might see, where you print out your plan for the next 8 weeks and it never changes. Our optimization engine is always adjusting, and looking at things, and recalculating to make sure you're getting the most optimized training each and every week. So as you look ahead, in the micro cycle, day to day, there's not a lot of changes that often occur. However, as you look ahead, even to the next week, there are sessions that may very well change based on what you do or don't do. So it's good from the standpoint of planning, you want to get a glimpse, but then also understanding that as you complete sessions or as you miss sessions, the program, the app will be automatically adjusting for those things. So it's good to always look out and see how things are changing, or maybe they're staying the same based on you staying on track with what has been prescribed.
Andrew Harley: Yeah, and I know for me, just to speak from my experience, very little changes when I'm on top of my training and I'm doing good TrainX scores, doing the right sessions on the right days. It starts to update when I start missing sessions, or overextending on sessions, under baking some sessions, when I have to move a session or two. That's when I start seeing, okay, it's updating some things to really optimize, obviously, after you do an assessment, and it sees where you're at in the assessment data as you add races. So for me, if I'm doing the training how it's telling me to, it's pretty stable. And when I start changing stuff, it's got to update to flex with what I'm changing. Ken?
Ken Presutti: Yes.
Andrew Harley: What do we need to see next, brother?
Ken Presutti: All right. And I want to be conscious of the time for all of our listeners, but I don't want to short-change this. So let me show you next some of the updates to settings that we have made. So over here on the right-hand side--
Andrew Harley: Guy Schechter reacted to your post. That's a brand-new notification since you've been recording this podcast. Who is Guy Schechter? Shout out Guy Schechter.
Ken Presutti: Yes. Guy is our CTO and head of innovation at TriDot. And so also, maybe—
Andrew Harley: Is he the smartest guy in the company?
Ken Presutti: He might be the smartest guy in the company, and one of our top motivators, because you see that he reacted to my post, and yeah, that's a great, well, would be a great segue into talking about some of our social features that we've included. But I'm not going to go there just yet. Where I want to go is on the new settings. So here, on the right-hand side of your nav bar, you always have access to your settings. And this is where you can set your training preferences, you can connect your devices and your applications, and make all of those other little tweaks that you might want to make, in terms of, I prefer to take my Garmin from -- or my data from Garmin, or I prefer to take my data from Khoros, or wherever you might want to make those types of modifications. So the ones that probably are most important for listeners or viewers today, if we go into Training Preferences, I can look at my schedule volume, and this is where I can set the number of swims, bikes, or runs that I want weekly. It's important to note, even though I've selected I want 5 runs weekly, our training optimization is not necessarily going to give me 5 runs. It will give me up to 5 runs based on my current fitness level and my predisposition to injury. So you can say how many sessions you want, and the system will work to optimize those sessions for you based on your training stress profile and all of the other factors that might go into this. The next piece here, schedule settings. And I wanted to bring this up because we just talked about how can I expect my calendar to change based on what I'm doing or what I'm not doing. Absolutely, we are going to adapt your workouts. But this is where you really say, this is what I have the availability to do from a discipline standpoint. So it's not like if you miss something on a Thursday or Friday, you miss a bike on a Thursday or Friday, it's going to take a bike away from you on a Saturday or it's going to give you a bike. You are still in control of what disciplines you can do on what day because that's how most of us have to think about our schedules. So here, I can optimize, I can adjust what I have the ability to do and when. So for me, I've been strength training on Mondays. I'm going to move that strength over to Monday. That's also when I swim. I have been doing my swimming on Thursdays. I'm going to update that there, and I'm going to leave a strength on Thursdays as well, because my pool and my gym are at the same place. And then I can move these bikes wherever I need to move them. So this gives you the option to really set the system up to support your life. In the past, we had locked users into doing their long sessions either on a Saturday, Sunday, or Wednesday. Now, you can move your long session to any day of the week that you prefer. And the sessions that you've told the system that you can do around those long sessions are going to optimize based on that, as well. So always running that optimization engine in the background, giving you the best training possible for however you need to structure your training life. And you can save those here, and then my training will regenerate based on a couple of those little changes that I just made, moving those strength workouts and those swim days.
Andrew Harley: Yeah, and you didn't show it, but if we had scrolled down just a little bit, you can actually, that's where you're putting in, you're telling TriDot, this is the time of day I usually do this workout. And you can change it on the day of, obviously. But that just, if you know you do a typical time of day, you can just set it in stone, and there it is.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely. And most of us probably have a time of day that we're doing our workouts, and that way you don't have to worry as much about updating those times when you're going.
Andrew Harley: Every single time, yeah.
Ken Presutti: Every single time. So that's part of the new settings. I also wanted to just show the device connections. One of the big updates we made was to how we connect to Apple Watch. So with the new mobile-native app, we're able to use Apple's health kit for our Apple users. And it's very easy to connect an Apple Watch right now. So if you're not sure if your system is compatible, if you have an older Apple Watch, you can click on this link, and it's going to run a quick check for you, and it will tell you, hey, your iPhone meets the Apple Watch requirements. So now I know my Apple Watch Ultra and my iPhone are up to date, and it can easily connect. And then unlike in the past, where we used the Dot Connect app to take Apple workouts and bring them into TriDot or export guided workouts from TriDot onto the Apple Watch, it's all connected within the app now. And if I wanted to look at the workouts that are there, I can see all the workouts that TriDot pulled in from my Apple Watch. I can see they uploaded. So you still have that Dot Connect functionality built in, or the functionality that users might have been used to, but It all lives natively within the new—
Andrew Harley: View all 1,450.
Ken Presutti: It's a lot. So we've got all of your standard connections in here for cycling, for running, for swimming. Those all are still there. And then finally, in settings, I'll see I also have notifications. I've got 7 notifications right now, and those all relate to the next feature I'm going to share, which is our social platform. So clicking here on the two people, you'll be brought into the social aspects of the new app. When you click on it for the very first time, you're going to be asked to set a username. I'm @coachkenp, so athletes listening and watching this, feel free to reach out, connect with me. I'd love to see what you're doing and how you're using the app. But in here, we now show on a timeline of workouts that our athletes are completing. On the timeline, you're going to get people that you follow. You're going to see what they're doing, the workouts that they're doing. You see, I just added the Draft Day 5k race, so you'll get notified if people you follow are adding races. So that's fun. We've got a few other tabs where you can click on and view your own individual activities, if you just want to see the stuff that you're doing. You'll see, let's see, did I, it's showing me that I followed a whole bunch of people yesterday, but I can also leave comments on workouts that I might have also completed. So here, ‘completed a 30-30s workout’, somebody gave me a reaction on there. They liked it. And I could leave a comment saying, “hey, I was feeling sick, that's why my TrainX score was only a 45,” if I felt the need to justify that, which I don't. But just saying. So you get that nice feature there. The other thing that's really fun with this is that you've got a menu up here, where you've got a few other options. You'll be able to search for your friends, you'll be able to update your privacy and security, so maybe you don't want people to see what you're doing. That's cool. Totally get it.
Andrew Harley: Yeah.
Ken Presutti: Can hide your social profile. You can hide your workouts. You can do all of those types of things that you would do on most social platforms. And then groups is the one that I'm most excited about. So you can create groups. You can see I created –
Andrew Harley: I love this.
Ken Presutti: Yeah. Coach, or Team KP Coaching. So this is a group that only has 2 members right now because this is so new, I've not had a chance to invite all my athletes to it yet.
Andrew Harley: Please don't think Ken only has two athletes, including himself. Yeah, that's the disclaimer. Ken coaches plenty of athletes.
Ken Presutti: So you can see here, I was able to update my profile picture, put a different picture in the background of me with my athletes, and then I've got activity in here, right. So I can see my athlete, Peggy. We just added Dover Duathlon race for her. I can see that that's in there. And so I'm going to come in here on a daily basis, once I onboard all of my athletes, and this is where I'm going to give them social kudos, they're going to encourage each other. We're going to be able to cheer each other on. I could add a group post in here, and I might say something like, “Hey, we're going to have a group, in-person meetup at south park tomorrow at 5pm. Meet me there, and we'll ride through the park, we'll hit some hills,” and I could even add a zoom link if I'm going to do a group virtual happy hour. And so it's a really good place that I can communicate with my athletes. And now I'm telling you--
Andrew Harley: So this is where, Ken, this is where I need to set up -- and again, I downloaded the app yesterday. I'm learning it right now alongside everybody else. This is where I need to set up a TriDot Podcast listener group.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely.
Andrew Harley: And post the warm-up question, ask people -- we source sometimes, like, “Hey, we have an episode coming up with so and so, what do you want me to ask them?” All that kind of stuff. People have comments on an episode, or people have a certain topic they want, they could chat about about it there. That's—I need to do that right now.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely. And you don't have to be a coach to do this. If you've got a small group of 5 people that you regularly train with as an athlete, you could set it up as Andrew's Group, or Andrew's Group That's Running the Pittsburgh Marathon, or where you got Andrew's Group That's Running the Big Sur Marathon.
Andrew Harley: In 18 days.
Ken Presutti: In 18 days. And you could all communicate in there. You could cheer each other on. This feature is very brand new and a new venture for us, overall. And so there are things that are going to be added. You see there's an option here for Leaderboards. So those are coming soon. As a group creator, or group owner, you'll be able to put together different leaderboards. Who has the best XP in the group this week, or the best TrainX score, I should say. Who’s run the most miles? So you can figure out the different things—
Andrew Harley: Who spent the most minutes listening to the podcast?
Ken Presutti: That's the one. That's exactly it. And then we'll also be introducing Milestones. And so Milestones will be a place where you can see, “BJ just completed his fastest 5k,” or, “Andrew finished the Big Sur marathon,” and things like that. So all of that is coming, but this is going to be a really fun feature, and it will evolve with the way we see our users using and wanting to use and engaging with it. So this is going to be, I think just one I am really excited about as a coach and an athlete.
Andrew Harley: How funny would it be if I legit booked a flight and went and ran the Big Sur marathon just because we talked about it so much on this episode?
Ken Presutti: I think you need to. I mean, you've been training for it, right? You've been following what's been in your plan.
B.J. Leeper: You're motivated, now. This new social feature is motivating you. I can see it.
Andrew Harley: It is, to be honest. Not to do that, but it is.
Ken Presutti: All right. Very last thing that I want to share with everybody is the in-app execution that we talked about earlier. So we've got a big play button right here in the middle of the nav bar, now. If I click on that, for whatever day I've selected in the calendar, it's going to give me the option to complete that workout. So you can see, ‘Record Today's Cruise Intervals’. And then you also see, I could just record my own run, or I could record my own ride, if I didn't want to do today's Cruise Intervals for whatever reason. If I'm going to do a workout on a day that nothing's scheduled, I won't have a workout there, but I will have the option to record my own run or my own ride. I'm going to click on Cruise Intervals to show you what that looks like. I can choose if I'm doing it indoors or outdoors. I'm going to choose indoors, here. We can select do we want to do this based off of heart rate, based off of pace, or based off of power. And then it's going to -- I'm going to be able to scan for different sensors that might be available to help track the workout.
Andrew Harley: So it's like a Stryd power meter, or a heart rate monitor, or something like that?
Ken Presutti: Exactly. Which reminds me, I need to charge my Stryd power meter, because it wasn't booting up before--
Andrew Harley: FORM swim goggles. Shout out to FORM. Although, you can't do this with swim yet.
Ken Presutti: Yes, exactly. So if I went to outdoor, though, then it's going to use the phone's gps. I've got an option for audio coaching, so I could actually have an audio guide through that, which would be very similar to the way your Garmin watch beeps at you, today. If you're used to using guided workouts on a Garmin or a Coros, or the way Zwift prompts you to move into different segments of your ride or your run. And then you hit continue, and it's going to launch this screen, here. So on this screen, you've got options. You can see I've got beats per minute, the pace I'm going, the distance, calories. You've got the option in your settings to adjust the data displays, so maybe I want to see my power, so I could pull that up higher in the list and drop it wherever I want it to show up. I've also got different screens here that I can scroll through. And because I'm not using my finger, I'm broadcasting from my computer right now, the mouse click is not letting me scroll through those, but it will show you different graphs, or different things that you could use, or different views that might be interesting to you. I also have the option if I decide, you know what, I don't want to hear the audio coach coaching me anymore, I could click into the settings. I could go to the audio coaching activity settings here, it's got that little microphone there, and when I go into that little microphone setting, I'm going to be able to turn up or turn down the amount of coaching that I'm getting from the coach. I could turn off the audio coaching in general. I could adjust all of those settings. So lots of cool--
Andrew Harley: Can you change the voice of the audio coach?
Ken Presutti: The changing of the voice of the audio coach is something that we will be working on.
Andrew Harley: Okay.
Ken Presutti: Some fun voices in there, maybe, too. But you got to stay tuned for that one.
Andrew Harley: Okay.
Ken Presutti: And then I'm just going to end this workout and not save it. But if I saved it, it would just upload, and then it would show as completed on my daily screen, and I could go in and look at all the metrics from the workout itself.
Andrew Harley: Yeah, definitely something super cool to -- I've just been so conditioned for the last 12 years. I throw on my Garmin watch, and I go do my workout. To play with this instead, for all the reasons you said, the data is better in a lot of cases. Just to see what the experience is like having that coach in your ear versus not, I'm excited to play with it.
Ken Presutti: And I will say, personally, a lot of times what I do is I turn the coaching consistency down, because I like to listen to podcasts and audiobooks, but it's still so nice to have it pop in and tell me when the next interval is starting. And as silly as it sounds, not having to look at my watch and just hearing it in my ear—
Andrew Harley: Especially like MAV Shuttle day, are you kidding me? You're sprinting all out, trying to stop at 20 seconds on the dot.
Ken Presutti: Absolutely. Or on long day, when you're 2 hours in and it feels like every move you have to make takes extra energy.
B.J. Leeper: And personally, I love it on the treadmill. I was one who, just like you, Andrew, I record everything on my watch. But especially because I'm indoors running 8 months out of the year, here in Northwest Montana, I've found, especially those that are familiar with cycling platforms, trainer roads, with whatever, being on the run on the treadmill, using the in app execution interface is really interesting to have something to look at, and like Ken said, the audio coaching gives you those feedback nuggets. It actually makes the time go a lot better for me.
Andrew Harley: Yep. Yeah, love it. And Ken, this has been so beneficial. You did such a killer job. I've been mentally keeping track of what parts of the app has Ken not talked about that I can ask about? But you've thoroughly covered all the essentials, all the important things, all the new stuff. I mean, the social thing, brand-spanking-new. Doing a workout through the phone, brand-spanking-new. Just killer job. BJ, you, as product owner, were doing a lot of listening, a lot of chiming in. Is there anything that you're super jazzed about, or that you think an athlete should know, that maybe Ken just quite didn't get into his 1-hour tour here?
B.J. Leeper: No, I think from a high level, just what I always want athletes to understand with our products, is that we built the system to be AI. Like over the last 20 years, we've been doing big data analysis, modeling, and building the technology that everybody has grown to understand that's been using our products. But that process has been a long time in the works, and that same engine, now, is still driving this new interface. And so as we've made some adjustments to the interface in the new mobile app redesign to be more flexible, to have these enhancements with social features, in-app execution. The cool thing I always think about is that one of our biggest differentiating factors is our technology that we built to be AI. And the differentiating factor there, for me, is that other products out there in the market -- because AI is such a huge term now -- a lot of those products you see just have these bolt on AI additions, or automated coaching paradigms that they're calling AI. And that's really different than what the backbone of our product and our optimization engine is. So I think that's the biggest take home that I want everybody to understand is our technology that drives the guide, that drives the experience, is still the same. It's very robust and continues to be enhanced. But the cool thing now, with this new mobile app, is that we're putting that focus on you as the athlete, giving you all the flexibility, the easy navigation that you need, and combining that all as one product.
Ken Presutti: Yeah, that's awesome, BJ. And then the very last thing that I would say, too, is we spent a lot of time talking with our existing athlete base, understanding what works for them, what doesn't work for them. But like all new things, things can feel a little bit different. So I would encourage everybody, keep an open mind. There might be something that feels a little bit off, but start to experiment and see, oh, okay, this is a different way of doing this, or a different way to get to this view. And again, all of that is based off of user research. So we may have trained you so long to do one thing or look for something one way, that now, in the new interface, it might feel a little bit off, it might feel a little bit different. Play with it, get used to it, see what works, and then provide us with the feedback. What do you like? What do you think is missing? How can we continue to work with our athlete base to make this a vibrant community who's really invested in bringing the best training possible to the entire community?
Andrew Harley: What is the best way, Ken, for people to give feedback?
Ken Presutti: Yeah, I mean, everybody--
Andrew Harley: Short of giving them your phone number.
Ken Presutti: Everybody thinks I'm crazy when I throw this info out there, but my email address is just ken.presutti@tridot.com. Happy to hear from you. Ping me in the social community. Now you got @coachkenp on the social platform, there. Hit me up there. There comment on one of my workouts. I'm more than happy to chat with anybody who wants to chat.
B.J. Leeper: And also, Andrew, within the app, in the menu options, there's a place for if anybody ever has questions, that also encompasses suggestions, there's a place where you can directly message our awesome Athlete Support Team.
Andrew Harley: So I've got the ‘Set Up Your Profile’ page open on my app right now, as you were showing us the social features. Should I be like @PodcastAndrew?
Ken Presutti: Oh, that's perfect.
Andrew Harley: @AndrewTriDotPodcast? @AndrewtheguybehindtheTriDot Podcast? Now we’re getting long, but—
Ken Presutti: What about @CaptainAndrew?
Andrew Harley: That's a thought. That's a thought.
B.J. Leeper: @MOP, Middle of the Pack.
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Andrew Harley: All right, onto the cool down of today's show. I'm going to ask a question from the audience, and this one didn't come from one specific audience member. But I've seen a few athletes, and a few of our staff members, actually, asked you guys this question recently on a team call, and it's related to the new app. So I think it's fitting today. People are wondering, in this new version of TriDot, will we see the mythical creatures that so many athletes are fond of seeing when you finish a good workout, the unicorns, the narwhals, et cetera? Is all of that going to carry over into the new app? What can we expect there? The people want to know. Can it, BJ?
B.J. Leeper: Yeah, I'll be the first to say that has been such a cool origin story of the mythical creature, and how that all came to be with the unicorn bonus. So we definitely have plans to incorporate a bonus of some sort. We're still working out whether it's a mythical creature or what that might encompass, but we definitely know how motivating getting those 100 TrainX scores are. And so we do have plans as future enhancements to add, like Ken gave you a sneak preview of Leaderboards, Milestones, and the social features. We definitely are planning to bring that into the app soon. So in this newest version, you won't see it just yet, but it's coming.
Ken Presutti: Yeah, I would echo on that. So we're continuing to look at what keeps our app athletes motivated, and what might even make that experience a richer experience. So stay tuned, and keep your eyes open.
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